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Jul 01
2008

What Would John Doe Do - Punks Throwing Bottle Rockets

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John Doe is the founder of the seminal Los Angeles punk group X, a solo artist and actor. John answers questions from our community members in the WWJDD? blog. Photo by Autumn de Wilde.

A Question from Pete in New York

What would you do if a drunk punk throws bottle rockets at you onstage during a solo acoustic show?

WWJDD?

It seems obvious that you have to keep yr cool and fire back some choice words to the dummy who wishes he had enough talent to be on stage rather than firing bottle rockets from the audience.  As Peter Case once told me, "Don't lose yr cool, man. If you lose yr cool, you lose yr power."  Occasionally this kind of disturbance can save an otherwise dull show, it's happened to me.  Where the show goes along, good but nothing special. Then some drunk start mouthing off & you've got immediate conflict & something memorable. Just go w/ it, be witty & don't get ugly.  If it comes to that, hopefully there is some security guy to "throw the bum out" or you might just have to put up yr dukes, this if course is a last, & ultimately never satisfying, resort.  And handling these things (stupid people or equipment failure) just gets easier the more time you have to deal w/ them.  Keep yr cool & no one will notice. If they do, they just think how cool you are.

good luck, I hope this helps
and as always, thanks for writing
JD

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Jun 02
2008

What Would John Doe Do - An Unscrupulous Producer

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John Doe is the founder of the seminal Los Angeles punk group X, a solo artist and actor. John answers questions from our community members in the WWJDD? blog. Photo by Autumn de Wilde.

 
A Question from Amanda in Indianapolis

Hello John,

I have been writing songs for some time now and it's been a dream of mine to record my own record. The local recording studio near my house gave me a handwritten price quote of $2000.00 to record, mix, master my recordings and cover the costs of a couple of session musicians. It seemed like a lot of money but the people there seemed to know what they are doing and I wanted a professional recording of my material. Now that the recording process is over a couple of things happened that have left me confused and upset. The person in charge at the studio helped me with melodies on two of my songs, now he says he wants 25% ownership of those songs! He never told me that his help would give him part ownership of MY songs. If I had known that I would have stuck with my original melodies. Additionally he is now asking that I sign a producer agreement that gives him 3% points on my sales. Shouldn't these "agreements" happen before I started recording, not after? I have already paid for the recording session in full but now he is won't give me the masters until I sign his agreements. Are artists always treated this way by people who offer "help" in the music industry? What would John Doe Do in this situation?

With much respect,

Amanda

 

WWJDD?

Hey Amanda,
   I'd love to kick this guy in the shins for you!
First of all, you have ALL my sympathy. This is totally unprofessional & YES these agreements should be negotiated before the session.  The first thing I thought of was how can you break-in or bring a couple of big, nasty goons & physically take back yr tapes.  Then of course I realized there are no tapes. I suppose you could do that to his computer but . . . doing 1 to 3 @ the State Pen for breaking & entering & robbery probably isn't that attractive. One way to avoid this is to use your own hard drive, possession is "9 tenths of the law".  BUT what's done is done.  You could get a lawyer but that means more money & too much time & effort.  You probably should make a complaint to the "Better Business Bureau" & tell anyone in yr town who cares, what a shitbag this guy is.
  Now, to solve yr dilemma. Even though what he's asking for should have be settled before recording, a producer's fee isn't uncommon.  Standard is 3% but that applies to established producers.  Offer him a 2%, producer's fee.  Regarding the melodies; go line by line & figure out what percentage yours to his melodies are used in the songs that he contributed to. That may be difficult but be generous & make yr best guess.  This way if he questions how you came up w/ the number, you will have a plan. Then offer him half of that percent of the writer’s credit, since I'm guessing he didn't write any of those words.  Also he would not be entitled to any publisher's royalty.  If none of this is acceptable to him, take him to small claims court, maybe you'll get Judge Judy.
  This is a lot of wrangling for, probably, not much reward ($$) but there is always a chance that the song could get licensed to some movie or TV show & that can be big dough.  Let me know if I should dust off my brass knuckles, be tough & best of luck.
I hope this helps and as always, thanks for writing.
yrs,
JD

 

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May 06
2008

What Would John Doe Do - Publicity Interviews

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John Doe is the founder of the seminal Los Angeles punk group X, a solo artist and actor. John answers questions from our community members in the WWJDD? blog. Photo by Autumn de Wilde.

A Question from Christina in Half Moon Bay, California

Hello John,

I have been writingabout music for a long time, which also means I read, hear and watch tons about music. As an observer, it seems to me that so many in the media miss good opportunities to learn more about the art of and the person they are interviewing; mostly because they just don't do their research. Like a great photograph, the right question and an honest answer can tell a lot about a person without compromising their privacy. You have been interviewed a lot and appear to give answers that are honest and not canned, even when the questions are just shallow or without thought - you have the ability to shift a bad question into something intelligent. So for those of us who write about music and get the chance to interview artists, what is it really that we should be asking in order to bring out the best, not put so much burden on the artist, and tell the interesting story?

Christina

WWJDD?

Hey Christina,

  What's increasingly common is that the artist has to come up w/ "a story" to tell.  "Why this record or tour is worth me writing about?"  When there weren't thousands of records every release date, the writers or publicists used to have time to come up w/ the story or at least a direction. Telling the story behind the songs can very easily compromise your private life, especially if you're somewhat confessional songwriter.  Intuition is always the best guide for the interviewee as to how much you want to reveal. Even so, sometimes you can get tricked into saying too much. That's why many musicians & actors can be guarded during the process.
  But to answer yr question more directly; research, experience & general knowledge is obvious w/in the first two minutes.  When there's little or none, it makes yr heart sink the way a bad beginning to a first date can make you look at yr watch w/in the first ten minutes (sigh). If a writer doesn't have the time or interest, my advice is to pass it on to someone who does.  If you need the money, do a little research & PLEASE avoid general questions.  Like any good writing, the more specific, the better.  Find a couple of elements that you can indentify w/ & ask about that.  Find a few lyrics that you like. Suggest some influences that you think you hear.  Pretty obvious stuff really.  But the best ones have all that & turn into a conversation.  Lastly, it's also precarious for the interviewer to talk too much about their experience w/ the band. "Back when I was 14 I saw you guys . . ."  OK I'll stop now.
hope this helps
and as always thanks for writing,
JD
 

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Apr 29
2008

9 Mistakes You Shouldn't Make When Performing Live by Jimmy Shelter

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Peter Eijk (or Jimmy Shelter, his rock star alter ego) has played in numerous bands, and made countless mistakes doing that. At JimmyShelter.nl he blogs about the gigs he visits, and articles based on the mistakes he made, so you won't make them.

For most beginning bands getting and playing as many gigs as possible is one of the main goals. Playing a good show can do wonders for your promotion, but a bad show won't bring you any new fans. This article shows you 9 mistakes you shouldn't make when you have a gig, improving your chances at a great show.


1. Playing too soon

Everyone has been to at least one show where you thought, “I wish the band had practiced a bit more”. Some bands are in such a hurry to get to playing live, they forget one of the most important things about playing live: having a good set.

You shouldn't play live if you don't have enough songs. A rule of thumb is to have at least 10 songs or between 30 and 45 minutes of music. Before performing you should know these 10 songs thoroughly: don't include songs you're not sure you can't play without errors just to make your set longer.


2. Not enough technical preparation

Besides the musical preparation, you should also be prepared for technically. Make sure you know what equipment the venue has available, and what you need to bring yourselves.

"Does anyone have a b-string left?"

Guitar strings break. If possible have a (tuned) spare guitar ready, but at least have some spare strings.


3. Too long pauses between songs

You don't want to your audience to fall asleep, so make sure your set is as continuous as possible. Nothing is as deadly for an excited audience as long pauses during a show, because all guitar players tune their guitars between every song, and the drummer needs to rearrange his drum kit. Keep the amount of tuning to a minimum. Try to perform your songs in blocks of 2, 3 songs at the time, for taking a short break to tune.

Switching between the standard tuning and drop D tuning after each song takes too much time: If you have a lot of songs in different tunings, try to either have one guitar ready for each tuning, or play songs in a different tuning directly after each other.


4. Tuning with sound audible

For the guitar players: If you have some spare cash, buy yourself a pedal tuner. That way your audience doesn't have to listen to the sounds of you tuning your guitar. A small investment for looking a lot more professional.


5. Talking too much / too little

People come to rock shows for music, not for speeches. Don't bore your audience with long-winded explanations about each songs or your complete band history. Keep those for your liner notes. On the other hand, just walking on stage, performing your songs back to back, without even acknowledging there's an audience isn't too smart either. After your gig the audience should at least know who you are, and where to find your website.

When talking between songs, try to pay attention to where you are and who your audience is. Try to avoid clichés. For example, I've seen too much bands trying to be cool by talking about smoking pot at concerts in Amsterdam: I live there, I know you can smoke legally here. I'm sure every city has its own cliché people get tired of hearing at every other show.


6. Acting like it's just another rehearsal


I've been to too many shows where band members show up in their regular boring everyday clothes, standing on the stage without moving more than necessary and ignoring the fact that there is an audience.

It isn't called a show for nothing! Give the people something watch, besides your music. Otherwise they could just put on your cd and stay home. Dress up a bit. Move around the stage, if you ain't sweating when you're done, you're doing it wrong!


7. Complaining during the show

The sound man won't be excited to fix your monitor sound, if you bitch loudly about your (lack of) sound. Try to catch his attention without letting the whole world know what the problem is.

This applies to other problems also. Disappointed in the low turnout? Don't complain to the people who DID show up.


8. Don't hide backstage

This one is aimed at starting bands playing local venues. Don't spend the entire night hiding backstage, especially during the shows of other bands who play the same evening. Support the other bands by watching their performance!


9. Being too drunk/stoned/high

Yeah, yeah, we know, you're a rockstar. Well, the best way to act like a real rockstar is by rocking as hard as possible, and giving the audience a great show. Living in Amsterdam I've seen a bit too much wannabe rockstars messing up their show by being stoned out of their minds. Of course, too many bands seem to play only for the free beers they get. Sure, drinking is fun, but try to do it after your show, not before.


The main point of this article? If you want to be treated like a professional musician? Act like one!




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Apr 22
2008

Writing Songs Is Easy by Matthew Ryan

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Matthew Ryan first debuted in 1997 with May Day (A&M Records) and since, has amassed an impressive catalog of critically lauded major label, DIY and indie releases to date. Matthew Ryan vs The Silver State is Ryan's 11th record released by Brooklyn indie 00:02:59 on 4/1/08. Photo by Bob Delevante.

When David asked me if I would be interested in writing an essay for his site, I accepted immediately. I know that the goal of this site to help us, artists and hopefuls, navigate the minefields, pleasant weather and oceans of today's music business. I don't know if I can offer anything that's really gonna help you, but I know what I'll write here are some of the things I wish someone had said to me. Maybe I could have avoided a couple dark nights and wrong turns. You see, I've had my share of experiences in the major label world, the indie world and the DIY world. My story is still developing and growing. And it took me years to realize that that's something to be proud of. Because for better and for worse, a persistent career in music is an epic novel of the self in the plots, developments and twists of ambition, dreams, naivety and stupidity in a constantly changing landscape. Sometimes it's a war zone. Sometimes it's a love story. 

So the first thing I would say to anyone going after this is: the sooner you come to conclusions about your center and the real engine that motivates you, the better off you'll be. Because I can't imagine a worse fate than a life travelled down the wrong road. Life is beautiful and life takes on speed. You might be surprised by how quickly you suddenly feel a bit out to sea. So be honest with yourself and those you surround yourself with, and expect the same from them. Be willing to fail while you succeed. And make sure your aim is true. 

I could go on forever here. It could get very dense and long, like the Crime & Punishment of what should be simple advice regarding a notion - How do I make a living from music?  

I've been doing this professionally since 1996. I know John Doe writes for this site as well, and I'm sure his point of view on all of this is horizons wider than mine. But even already in my experience, people have come and gone. Some succeed, many quit, and just as many think they failed. But honestly, I've never seen anyone fail at music. Usually people underachieve and they start to assume that that is their fate and they let that dismantle their ambition. The first step in making a living in music is believing that you can. Remain vigilant and maintain balance. Protect your sense of things but be open to adjusting your approach. And be careful, because there are those that go after music and become cynical shells with no romanticism left, they kinda carry themselves like coalminers trapped in a mine. That, in my opinion, is the worse thing to happen. Keep an eye on your spirit. In short, don't be afraid to fail and don't be afraid to succeed; just don't become a ghost. 

So, to me, the question becomes - what do you want from it? 

You're gonna have to define that and make a plan that gives you the best chance of reaching that. Every artist has his or her own road. And today, the options are endless; and so is the static. Your plan shouldn't define the entire arc of your career, look at it like a step on a staircase, once you reach one plateau, define and work towards another.  A friend of mine recently shared this quote with me, I don't know who said it originally, but he said ", if you can accomplish all that you're dreaming in your lifetime, then you're not dreaming enough." That's how all of us should live and work. Music is a potent engagement when done right with resonant intent, I would suggest we all focus on that. As you go though, be careful of ego, it can turn you into a cannibal. 

So I've already said more than I planned on. But there's one last thing I would want to express to you. Today, there are many people saying that we, as artists, should accept being niche. They're saying that music is no longer a connector, or movement and that the greed in business killed music. Music isn't dead, the business is changing. To me accepting niche sounds contrary to the defiant and intimate universality of music. I don't think we should expect less from ourselves or our work. We can't accept being creepy little cults on the edge of town. Music has always been a way to define or describe our collective mood. Whether you're talking about punk, folk, country, hip hop or jazz; at it's root, music comes with the cinema and memory of where we were and where we're going in moments. It's a swing at the wisdom we're not born with. And of course in this perfect world, songs can influence, encourage or define a dialogue (both internal and collectively) in the days they were born. I would love nothing more than for music and art to overtake entertainment. If that makes sense to you, then I believe you're on the right track. Writing songs is easy, it's everything else that takes stamina, work, indestructible hope and patience.


 

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Apr 15
2008

The Myths and Truths of Playing The SXSW and CMJ Festivals by David Slade and Collins Kilgore

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David Slade and Collins Kilgore play in the indie band American Princes.  The band's fourth record Other People was recently released on Yep Roc Records

 
Anyone who’s ever had serious hopes of being a professional pop musician has heard of South By Southwest.  Specifically, they’ve heard the dictum “You’ve gotta play South By Southwest.”  Implied in that statement is the promise that this festival is an essential springboard for a band’s career that, upon playing, will rocket the group to the upper echelons of rock n’ roll stardom.  And of course everyone believes this the first time they play SXSW.  They quickly learn, however, that they have been misinformed.  We have experienced this disillusionment personally and, while not as life-shattering as one would think, it has certainly reshaped how we view the whole thing.

South By Southwest and its Northeastern counterpart CMJ differ from the “music festival” in the classic sense of the term.  Unlike Woodstock or Reading, where already famous artists play for crowds familiar with (or already receptive to) their work, SXSW and CMJ are effectively music industry sample sales, where a horde of unestablished talent competes among itself for the attention of tastemakers – journalists, record label employees, radio promoters – whom, presumably, are the gatekeepers of fame and fortune.  The bands believe that, if they work hard and put on an amazing show, their hard work will be recognized by People Who Matter who, in turn, will discover the Band and Make Things Happen.  Consequently, South By Southwest will be the most amazing week of their artistic lives. There are a few myths and one truth to this scenario, outlined below.

THE MYTHS (note: Don’t be too bummed by any of this.  Remember, there are always exceptions to any rule!):


1. You Will Get Discovered at South By Southwest: You will no more be discovered at South By Southwest than you will playing in your practice space at home. The likelihood of an A&R rep walking in and signing you on the spot is identical in both cicumstances. This is the case for a few reasons, the first being that all of the people interested in signing bands at SXSW go into the festival with a list in hand of the artists who are already hot, and this list is long. If you’re not a regular mention on Pitchfork, or aren’t already the toast of Portland, Brooklyn, LA, London, Lisbon, or Chicago, you won’t be dropped in on by Jonathan Poneman. He’s busy checking out those other acts.

Another reason that record label decision makers aren’t going to come to your set is because they’re busy hyping the people they’ve already signed.  SXSW is a proving ground for fledgling acts on a roster so, often, the labels and managers are too busy going out and hustling attention for their own groups to be concerned with whatever you’re doing.  As you are trying to improve your market share, so are they.

2. You Will Generate “Buzz” By Playing at South By Southwest: This is where we get into a lesson on prepositions. Specifically, the difference between the words “before” and “at.” Going into SXSW with no one having heard your name outside of your incredibly small hometown (say, Little Rock, AR), you won’t leave Austin with your name on the lips of every festival attendee. As is also the case with Myth #1, the bands who leave SXSW with buzz are the same bands who went into the festival with buzz. To illustrate, we’ll recount what could have been an actual snippet of dialogue from this year’s festival:

REPORTER FROM A FANCY MUSIC MAGAZINE: Where did you just come from?

FREELANCER WHOSE REVIEW OF VAMPIRE WEEKEND YOU JUST READ: The Merge [Records] showcase.  I saw She & Him.  Zooey Deschanel is so hot.

REPORTER FROM A FANCY MUSIC MAGAZINE: Tell me about it.  Man, that record’s good, too.  

Here is a dialogue snippet that absolutely did not go down at this year’s festival:

REPORTER FROM A FANCY MUSIC MAGAZINE: Where did you just come from?

FREELANCER WHOSE REVIEW OF VAMPIRE WEEKEND YOU JUST READ: Well, last night I was walking down the street, and this guy came up to me and handed me his band’s CD.  They’re from Terra Haute, and this is the first time they’ve ever played here.  I listened to it and it blew me away, so I just went to their showcase.  It was incredible!  I’m going to make sure I tell everyone I know about them.  Here, let me give you their MySpace address.

REPORTER FROM A FANCY MUSIC MAGAZINE: Awesome!  I’m always on the lookout for something new.

3. Playing A Lot Of Shows Will Impress People and Your Hard Work Will Pay Off: At our first SXSW (2006) we remember hearing about a certain buzz band at the time (Tapes ‘N Tapes) and how they were playing a record 6 shows that year.  "How ambitious and hard-working they are," we thought to ourselves.  “Clearly, this has a causal relationship to the fame they are enjoying.”

The following year there were a number of bands that played at least six shows, and the New York Times ran an article about The Black Lips (who played eight shows), discussing how they were the "hardest working band at SXSW."  This year we tried it out and played 6 shows (in 2 days we might add) and it just so happened that THIS WAS THE NORM for bands playing in Austin in 2008.  We heard rumors of one band playing a remarkable 11 shows, and more absurdly, a band that made 12 appearances.  That works out to 3 shows a day for 4 straight days, or possibly 6 shows a day for 2 days.  However you parse it out the important thing is that the New York Times wrote about neither of these bands. We're not sure if they got any real hype from playing this many shows, other than providing an eyebrow-raising factoid for musicians to scare each other with.

Back in ’06, Tapes 'N Tapes were probably not the first band to play 6 shows at the festival, but they had been all over the blogs in the weeks leading up to the festival, and their frantic schedule was one thing that people zeroed in on when giving them praise. It illustrates the principle that bands only attract buzz at SXSW by bringing it with them.

The term "hard working at SXSW" is a myth insofar as it's a redundancy.  The first two times we played the festival, doing only 2 shows apiece, our experiences were equally as taxing as our 6-show stint this year.  No matter what you do you will A) be on your feet entirely too long, B) drink entirely too much, and C) will likely to expend far too much mental energy hoping that someone there will have the power or the will to break your band.  Festivals like SXSW and CMJ serve mostly as a way to say "Hey, we're here" or “Hey, we’re still here.”  It's just a matter of paying your dues, like appearing at your monthly Rotary Club meeting. Except instead of paying the Rotary treasurer you pay Sonicbids.

THE LONE TRUTH:

1. You Can and Should Have Fun at South By Southwest:  Make this a pleasure before business experience and you’ll have a blast.  While there are a lot of downsides to every band in the known world descending on a single town, the upside is that a ton of phenomenal music is made available to you, all within walking distance.  Further, you literally cannot escape the festival without being showered in free alcohol and barbecue so, if that’s your bag, then get psyched.  We’ve stumbled onto incredibly intimate, awesome shows of unknown bands who have become some of our favorite artists.  We’ve also gotten to see crazy, huge stuff like Mastodon, David Byrne, John Doe, and Iggy Pop for free.  You can also get free shoes.  We know this for a fact.

Fundamentally, festivals like South By Southwest or CMJ are week-long celebrations for a ton of people who are, for whatever reasons, completely committed to a bunch of different aspects of music, from making it to selling it and all the points in between.  It shows just how wide a sampling of cultures throughout the world are affected by pop music‚ to the point where people will travel for days and days just to celebrate its existence (and to hype their own little piece of the cake, but still, we want to end this on an up note).  While these festivals aren’t going to make you famous (unless you’ve already got something going for you, such as being Zooey Deschanel), that fact is effectively beside the point.  You go to these things to play shows for the pure sake of playing shows, and to experience music for the pure sake of experiencing music.  And this is the best thing that one could possibly want, ultimately.

- David Slade & Collins Kilgore

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Apr 01
2008

What Would John Doe Do - The Value of Mastering

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John Doe is the founder of the seminal Los Angeles punk group X, a solo artist and actor. John answers questions from our community members in the WWJDD? blog. Photo by Autumn de Wilde.

A question from Bonny in Austin:

 

Hi John,

I have been relentlessly asking everyone I come in contact
with this question as I finish CD#2, recorded with the
magic of Pro Tools and a gaggle of big talent from here in
Austin. (at Jumping Dog Studio w/Ron Flynt)

The question I have: how important is it to spend $175
dollars an hour to master, compared to, say, $250? I
realize you can't actually answer that question but would
like your opinion on the merits of a well-known and
obviously talented master-er as opposed to a less-famous
and/or experienced one. It seems with the whole new "music
is free" and internet downloading vs. vinyl and discs, what
level of perfection is actually appreciated/necessary in
the end? I'm also wondering if as technology is making
mastering capability more available perhaps the price might
be coming down. I'm not a cheapskate or unwilling to spend
money on my art, but just trying to get the facts.

I am not exactly professional, I write and play locally
because I love to, and it keeps me (sort of) sane and
hopefully someday someone with a wonderful voice will cover
one of my songs. Or rip me off and get me some publicity.

Thanks for your response, and I loved the Austin show! I
feel very honored to have shaken your talented hand.

Bonny

myspace.com/bonnyholmes

WWJDD?

Dear Bonny,

First, don't let anyone rip you off! ! ! Hopefully someone will cover one of your songs & you'll be rich, famous & satisfied.

There's no doubt that mastering can make a good record, great & a mediocre record, really sing, so don't under estimate it's value. On the most basic level it puts your record through the best bass, treble, mid-range EQ you can imagine, and then saves that marriage. You can make a record better w/ good mastering, you can't save a badly recorded or conceived record. Regarding mastering choices, you simply should match the cost of mastering w/ the cost of the project. Most mastering labs have mastered more than a few records. Listen to them & make you choice based on the sound & how it relates to your record. You wouldn't master a hip-hop record @ a place that usually does country records, simple eh?

If you recorded on pro tools, I would recommend using the pro tools mastering program w/ the engineer who recorded it and save you self the significant cost of mastering. I've found the program is reliable & does a pretty decent job. If it's still doesn't make the record sound as you thought it could, then take it to a mastering lab that masters records similar to yours.

best of luck
and as always, thanks for writing,
JD

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Mar 04
2008

What Would John Doe Do - Defining Music Biz Success

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John Doe is the founder of the seminal Los Angeles punk group X, a solo artist and actor. John answers questions from our community members in the WWJDD? blog. Photo by Autumn de Wilde.

A Question from Liv in Milwaukee

John, John, John,

(big fan here)....I have seen you countless times,and spoken to you a couple as well, and although I quit 'the hooch' years ago, I still somehow manage to turn into a blathering rambling puddle most of the time when faced w/speaking directly to people I admire,,,So,uh, I'll do my best*

 I am 37 now, and this year marks 20 years of playing in bars/nightclubs/and venues for me. I am embracing the word 'seasoned' now more than ever. I've had two record deals, successful in their lessons to me, unsuccessful in terms of exposure regarding my music. I keep going, keep going, keep playing, practicing, writing, dreaming. I think positively, I think negatively, I've gone through love /hate and back again w/what this means to me, and why I still am willing to occasionally play to nearly no-one, only for gas money.

So I guess I'll end this with a sort of question...Do you believe that if what you do is good enough,(for lack of a better term) that it will be noticed one day?

Or, Is the music industry so different and fucked up now, that it's more of a privilege to in fact not be noticed?
Or...Does god, or the powers that be, hear us and our songs, thus paving the way to a pretty kick ass afterlife?? (half kidding)

It would be great to hear what you say

Liv

www.myspace.com/thedarkhorseproject 

 

WWJDD?

 

Hey Liv,
   Unless you are lucky enough to find just the right balance of the music/career/life combination, everyone has similar questions.  Let's say you're Debby Harry (I see she's on yr "friends" list) & had a great artistic run, part of a seminal scene, changed peoples' lives, had bonafide hit songs & now still loves music & wants to keep making it. Does she want to sing, write songs, record, play live OR does she just want to be famous & re-capture the "salad days"? Probably some combination of both.  At this point in her life, it's her attitude that will determine how rewarding making music is or is not.  DISCLAIMER ! ! ! I have no idea how or what Debby Harry does w/ her music, life or mind.  I'm just using her as an example.
  There are times in everyone's career, artistic or not, where the question "What The Fuck?" is all you can think.  Sssooo . . .  I guess that's the question you have to answer.  There's no doubt that a lot of bullshit happens in music on all kinds of different levels.  Do you love making music and that whole process or is how it's received, by whom & what you get paid more important?  I'm not judging which is better.  People do things for all kinds of reasons & it really doesn't matter why.  Personally, I'm not all that anxious to walk into another ammonia-stinking bar @ 6 PM to do sound check, but I have to look at it from the perspective that if I'm lucky I'll have the opportunity to do this for another 15 + years.
   In the old days (like up 'til the 50's) people just sat around each others' houses & played songs w/ their friends.  That is a great thing that I wish I did more of & can be even more rewarding than having to be validated by an audience.        
Hope that's of some help, best of luck solving an ancient dilemma & as always
thanks for writing,

JD

 

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Feb 05
2008

What Would John Doe Do - Drummer Dilemma

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John Doe is the founder of the seminal Los Angeles punk group X, a solo artist and actor. John answers questions from our community members in the WWJDD? blog. Photo by Autumn de Wilde.

A Question from Scott in Maine

Hi John, First off I'm a huge fan of X, and your solo albums/CD's.
'Forever Hasn't Happened Yet' is a favorite.
Now, I'm a drummer and have only been included in songwriting
percentages on 2 or 3 occasions by generous and realistic, non
egocentric individuals. The rest of the time I'm told to forget it,
you're just the drummer. I feel the drums add a vital and even
essential part to most songs you hear on the radio, and beyond. Why
has the system been set up to not include drum parts ?
Realistically, the drums are almost always 'Written' by the drummer
with his past experiences that led him to a particular session/gig or
whatever. I have been playing most of my life, gigging and recording
for 25+ years. Now, again, I'm in a dilemma. I was verbally told I
would be cut in on publishing/songwriting for a debut CD, then after
recording is over, I'm out. We mutually parted but no mention of
previous verbal agreement. (with two members). They want to pay me a
small fee for the recording, and that's it. Any suggestions?

 

Sincerely,

Scott Mills

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Hey Scott,

Hmmmm . . . this is somewhat of a moral dilemma.
First, I would suggest that you write words, music & melodies; that way you would be assured your writing & publishing percentage. That's sort of the legal bottom line.
Many bands, early on, split writing & publishing money to keep all the band members afloat. When they're more established, the non-writing members forego their cut because the gig money, recording fund, whatever, is paying their bills. IF, you were told your contribution was important enough that you deserved a credit, then they should keep their word & you have every right to speak up & demand your share.
I'm quite certain that, legally, even if an instrument has the "hook" to a song; they are not considered a writer and do not share that credit or publishing. Unless the writer gives them a share. We all play our instruments & develop the song the best we can. That's why people get paid for recording sessions and if they're great players, the pay reflects that ability or creativity. But if there was no structure (melody, words & music) then there would be no song to contribute your part to. For instance, would Greg Leisz be considered a writer for playing his amazing pedal steel parts on kd lang records? There were X songs that I wrote entirely but included Exene as writer because she either edited or inspired the song. On the other hand if it's a "jam" that turns into a song, I would say that everyone playing that jam deserves a writers' credit & therefore publishing.

Hope this helps. thanks for writing & as always,

best of luck,
JD

 

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Jan 07
2008

What Would John Doe Do - Sharing Songwriter Royalties

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Question from Kathy in South Carolina

Hi JD,

I am a songwriter in an emerging band and we are about to complete and release our debut cd. What is your take on sharing songwriter royalties with others in the band? Also, how does one decide which performing rights organization to join these days? Do you have any practical tips and insights on choosing between ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, etc? I have read that you can contact each of them and decide based on options and relationships you develop, but I have not approached a particular one yet.

Thanks for your guidance!

Kathy Osborne

From the band South85

www.south85.com

www.myspace.com/south85band

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Hey Kathy,

You share the songwriting credit any way you see fit. Either work done, like melody, chords or lyrics contributed or situation inspired, being there & essential to the process. It doesn't have to be 50/50. Always do what your intuition tells you is right. You will probably do the right thing & won't have regrets. You could say all your songs were written by Jesus or your mommy if you wanted but then they would collect the royalties.

I used to be w/BMI, mostly run by broadcasters i.e. radio & the like. They were competent but sort of hands off, didn't really hear from them personally. I switched to ASCAP because it's run by songwriters & composers. Also someone I've known for a long time works @ ASCAP & I get a bit more attention that way. That only applies to an established writer but anyone can have a champion in any company. By which I mean if you meet someone at either society who really gets what you write then work w/ them. It appears that ASCAP collects a bit more money than BMI but I'm sure someone else might say the opposite. Both are non-profit & do a good job. I don't know any writers who use SESAC so I can't really comment on them but they definitely are the lesser of the three.

best of luck,
Jd

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